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Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms FAQ

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Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms

Platform

Q.  What are the Cisco ® Catalyst ® 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms are the evolution of the Cisco ASR 1000 Series Aggregation Services Routers, designed for Secure Access Service Edge (SASE), software-defined WAN (SD-WAN, and 5G-based architectures. Within the Catalyst 8500 Series Edge platforms, two platforms (the C8500-12X4QC and C8500-12X) are powered by an all-new Cisco Quantum Flow Processor (QFP) 3.0. The C8500L-8S4X platform is powered by a multicore system on a chip (SOC) engine using advanced flow based forwarding algorithms. These platforms are purpose-built for high-performance SD-WAN and offer enterprise feature parity with existing ASR 1000 platforms.
Q.  What is the portfolio transition from the ASR 1000 Series to the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The C8500-12X4QC is the successor to the ASR 1002-HX. The C8500-12X is the successor to the ASR 1001-HX. The C8500L-8S4X is the successor to the ASR 1001-X.
Q.  What are the different models of the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms has three models:

      C8500-12X4QC: 12x 1/10GE + 2x40GE + 2x40/100GE (max 240GE ports)

      C8500-12X: 12x 1/10GE

      C8500L-8S4X: 8x 1GE + 4x 1/10GE

Q.  What are the key differences between the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms and the ASR 1000 series?
A.  The Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms have these key differences:

 

C8500-12X4QC

C8500-12X

C8500L-8S4X

ASR 1000 Series

Data plane

Quantum Flow Processor (QFP) 3.0

x86 SOC architecture with dedicated dataplane cores

QFP 2.0

Maximum memory

64 GB

64 GB

32 GB

Built-in 40GE/100GE ports

Yes

No

No

Expansion slots

No

No

EPA (ASR 1002-HX)

Q.  What are the key differences between the C8500L-8S4X and other models in the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The C8500L-8S4X uses a multicore SOC architecture. Other Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms use a dedicated control plane CPU and QFP ASIC for the dataplane. The dataplane of the C8500L-8S4X uses an advanced flow based forwarding algorithm to get optimal performance from the forwarding cores. Other Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms models use a load based distribution method, while the C8500L-8S4X model hashes L3 and L4 packet information to assign all the packets from a given flow. By assigning all the packets for a given flow to a given core, the system maximizes efficiency in forwarding and evaluating stateful features.
Q.  What is the naming convention for Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.   

Naming convention

 

SKU character

Significance

S

1 GE port

X

1 GE/10 GE port

Q

40 GE port

C

100 GE port

Q.  What are the available front-panel ports for the Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The C8500-12X4QC model has 12x 1/10GE SFP+ ports, 2x 40GE QSFP+ ports, and 2x 40/100GE QSFP28 ports. The C8500-12X model has 12x 1/10GE SFP+ ports. The C8500L-8S4X has 8x 1GE SFP ports and 4x 1/10GE SFP+ ports.

Platform

1 GE

1/10 GE

40 GE

40/100 GE

C8500-12X4QC

-

12

2

2

C8500-12X

-

12

-

-

C8500L-8S4X

8

4

-

-

Q.  What are the maximum number of ports that can be enabled on C8500-12X4QC?
A.  A maximum of 240GE of ports can be enabled simultaneously for C8500-12X4QC. The following table highlights the maximum port configurations on C8500-12X4QC:

Ports type

Configuration

Max 1 GE

12x1GE

Max 10 GE

12x10GE

Max 10GE + 40GE

12x10GE + 3x40GE

Max 40GE + 10GE

4x40GE + 8x10GE

Max 100GE

2x100GE*

Max 100GE + 10GE

1x100GE + 12x10GE

Max 100GE + 40GE

1x100GE + 3x40GE

Max 100GE + 40GE + 10GE

1x100GE + 1x40GE + 8x10GE

*When Bay 1 is set up in 100GE mode, no other ports available in Bay 0 or Bay 1.
Q.  How do I change between 10G, 40G, and 100G port configurations on the C8500-12X4QC?
A.  Use the following configuration command:

Router(config)#hw-module subslot 0/2 mode?

   100G  configure EPA to 100G mode

   10G   configure EPA to 10G mode

   40G   configure EPA to 40G mode

Q.  How do I see the current port configuration on the C8500-12X4QC?
A.  Use the show interface and show ip interface brief commands to get the interface mode.
Q.  What the default port configuration for the C8500-12X4QC?
A.  The default configuration in each port bay of the C8500-12X4QC is:

      Bay 0: 8x10GE

      Bay 1: 4x10GE

      Bay 2: 3x40GE

Ports can be changed according to the maximum ports configuration table.
Q.  How do I configure the 1/10GE ports in 1 GE mode or 10 GE mode?
A.  The port speed will be determined by the type of transceiver plugged in. A 1 GE SFP will enable the port in 1 GE mode, and a 10 GE SFP+ will enable the port in 10 GE mode.
Q.  Do the 1/10GE ports support 10/100M speeds or auto-negotiation with GLC-TE?
A.  No, 10/100M speeds are not supported with GLC-TE. For 100M support, the GLC-GE-100FX can be used in the 1/10GE ports.
Q.  What are the maximum number of ports that can be enabled on the C8500-12X?
A.  All 12x 1/10GE SFP+ ports can be enabled on the C8500-12X.
Q.  What are the maximum number of ports that can be enabled on the C8500L-8S4X?
A.  All 8x 1GE SFP and 4x 1/10GE SFP+ ports can be enabled on the C8500L-8S4X.
Q.  What optics are supported on Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  Review the optics compatibility matrix for complete details on supported optics: https://tmgmatrix.cisco.com/?si=C8500
Q.  Can I enable port 0/2/4 and port 0/2/8 in 100 GE mode on the C8500-12X4QC?
A.  No, ports 0/2/4 and 0/2/8 can only be enabled in 40 GE mode.
Q.  Are Cisco ASR 1000 Series Shared Port Adapter (SPA) cards supported on the Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  No. SPAs are not compatible with the Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms.
Q.  Are Cisco ASR 1000 Ethernet Port Adapter (EPA) cards supported on the Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  No. EPAs are not compatible with the Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms.
Q.  Are NIMs supported on the Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  No. NIMs are not compatible with the Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms.
Q.  What flash storage options are available on the Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms are equipped with 32 GB eUSB for default boot storage. An upgradable option to 480 GB SSD is available. The C8500L-8S4X supports a 16GB eUSB and 32GB eUSB for default boot storage.
Q.  What rack-mounting options are available for the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  Available options include 19-inch rack mounting, 23-inch rack mounting, and 4-post rack mounting.
Q.  Where can I find the Mean Time Between Failures (MTBF) information for the Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  MTBF information for the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms is available in the Catalyst 8500 Series data sheet. The C8500-12X4QC model has a predicted MTBF of 146,700 hours. The C8500-12X model has a predicted MTBF of 156,200 hours. The C8500L-8S4X has a predicted MTBF of 240,200
Q.  Is a console port available on the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms include the option of the regular RJ-45 console port, as well as a micro-USB console port.
Q.  Is an RFID tag available on the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  Yes, an RFID tag is available on the left side of the front panel on these platforms for externally collecting the inventory (Product ID, Serial Number Version Identifier, and Unique Device Identifier [PID, SN, VID, UDI]). These inventories can be used to help pre-populate the devices in the backend system for zero-touch provisioning. They are also used to collect the inventory offsite.
Q.  What information is on the label tray?
A.  The label tray contains information regarding the product ID, serial number, Common Language Equipment Identification (CLEI), Top Assembly Line (TAN), MAC, and hardware version number.
Q.  Is a QR code available?
A.  Yes. The QR code is located on the label tray and contains information regarding the product ID, serial number, CLEI, TAN, MAC, and hardware version number.
Q.  What are the meanings of the status LED colors?
A.   

      LED is not showing a color/off: A port is not enabled by software

      LED color is amber: A port is enabled by software, but there is a problem with the link

      LED color is green: A port is enabled by software and link is valid

Q.  Are the fans Field-Replaceable Units (FRUs)?
A.  Yes, the fans are part of a fan tray which is field-replaceable part.

Power

Q.  Are the power supplies in the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms FRUs?
A.  Yes, the power supplies for Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms can be replaced in the field.
Q.  Are the power supplies of Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms hot-swappable?
A.  Yes. You do not need to power down the chassis to insert or remove a power supply. The bezel and fan tray can remain in place while a power supply is replaced.
Q.  Are there redundant power supplies in the Catalyst 8500 Series Edge?
A.  Yes, redundant power supplies are default.
Q.  What power supply options are available for the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The C8500-12X4QC and C8500-12X models support a 750W AC power supply or a 950W DC supply. The C8500L-8S4X model support 400W power supplies in AC, DC, and high voltage DC versions.
Q.  What is the airflow direction for the power supply?
A.  Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms are all front (port side) to back (bezel side) airflow.
Q.  Do the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support mixing the AC, DC, and HVDC power supplies in the same chassis?
A.  No. The power supplies need to be matching versions.

Software

Q.  What Cisco IOS ® Software is available for the Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms run a Cisco IOS XE unified image, which supports both IOS XE and IOS XE SD-WAN inside a single binary file.
Q.  Do the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms have feature parity with the ASR 1000 Series?
A.  The Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms have Enterprise feature parity with the ASR 1000 Series.
Q.  What software images are available for the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support four types of images:

      Universal

      Universal with no payload encryption

      Universal with no lawful Intercept, and

      Universal with no payload encryption and no lawful intercept.

Images with no payload encryption do not offer any IPsec/MACsec encryption and do not support SD-WAN. Images with no lawful intercept also not support SD-WAN.
Q.  Do Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support NETCONF and YANG?
A.  Yes, the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms provide support for NETCONF operations and YANG modeling using a combination of industry-wide common models and Cisco specific models.
Q.  Is In-Service Software Upgrade (ISSU) supported on the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  ISSU is not supported on the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms.
Q.  What are the Layer-2 tunneling mechanisms available on Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support L2TPv2, L2TPv3, EVPN, and VPLS as the Layer-2 tunneling mechanisms.

Security

Q.  What features from Cisco Trustworthy Solutions are offered on the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The security features of Trustworthy Solutions include:

      Secure boot with signed images and hardware anchoring with secure unique device identifier (SUDI)

      Secure storage

      Run-time defenses

      Authentication and integrity verification

      Recovery mechanisms

      Management plane protections

Q.  Do the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms have separate hardware to accelerate VPN operations?
A.  The C8500-12X4QC and C8500-12X models have hardware-accelerated encryption and decryption in the third-generation Cisco Quantum Flow Processor (QFP). The C8500L-8S4X model uses Intel ® Quick Assist Technology (QAT) to give hardware acceleration to encryption operations.
Q.  Is SSL VPN supported on Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  No, SSL VPN is not supported on Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms. The alternate solution would be to use Cisco FlexVPN for remote access solutions.
Q.  Is the Cisco Easy VPN client supported on Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  No, the Easy VPN client is not supported on Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms. The alternate solution would be to use FlexVPN for remote access solutions.
Q.  What VPN technologies are supported on the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support the following VPN technologies: FlexVPN, Dynamic Multipoint VPN (DMVPN), Group Encrypted Transport VPN (GETVPN), and EasyVPN Server.
Q.  Is WAN MACsec supported on the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  Yes, WAN MACsec is supported on all built-in ports of the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms.
Q.  Are Suite-B and Next-Generation Encryption (NGE) supported on Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  Yes, Suite-B and NGE are supported on the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms.
Q.  Is Encrypted Traffic Analytics (ETA) available on Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  Yes, Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support ETA.
Q.  Is the Intrusion Prevention System (IPS) supported on the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  No, IPS is not supported on the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms.
Q.  Is content filtering supported on the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  Yes, content filtering is supported on the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms using DNS/web layer security.
Q.  Do the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support Cisco Umbrella Secure Internet Gateway (SIG)?
A.  Yes, Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support Cisco Umbrella SIG.
Q.  Do the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support third-party SIG?
A.  Yes, Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support third-party SIG.
Q.  What other security solutions are offered on Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support:

      IPsec

      MACsec

      Zone-based firewall

      Network Address Translation (NAT)

      Virtual Route Forwarding (VRF)-aware security

      Anomaly detection and machine learning

      Cisco TrustSec®

      Identity-based networking (802.1x)

      Access control lists

      Control plane protection (CoPP)

      Role-based CLI access

      Source-based Remotely Triggered Black Hole (RTBH) filtering

      SSHv2

      Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding (RPF)

SD-WAN

Q.  Do all Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support Cisco IOS XE SD-WAN?
A.  Yes. All Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support IOS XE SD-WAN.
Q.  Is there SD-WAN feature parity with the Cisco ASR 1000 series?
A.  With exception of AppNav, the Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms have SD-WAN feature parity with the Cisco ASR 1000 series.
Q.  Is Smart Licensing supported with Cisco IOS XE SD-WAN?
A.  Smart Licensing will be the only supported call-home feature on Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms running on Cisco IOS XE or Cisco IOS XE SD-WAN modes.

Licensing

Q.  What is the software packaging and traditional licensing model for Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  The Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms include the following Cisco DNA license packaging:

      Cisco DNA Advantage with Network Advantage

      Cisco DNA Premier with Network Advantage

Q.  What is included as part of Cisco DNA Advantage versus Cisco DNA Premier?
A.  To learn about the features of each package, refer to Cisco DNA Software for SD-WAN and Routing at:
https://www.cisco.com/c/m/en_us/products/software/sd-wan-routing-matrix.html?oid=otren019258
Q.  Are the Cisco ASR 1000 perpetual licenses compatible with Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  No, Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms are Cisco DNA subscription-only platforms.
Q.  What are the applicable subscription tiers for the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge platforms?
A.  Refer to the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge ordering guide
Q.  What is a HSEC license?
A.  An add-on license above the security (SEC) technology package license, known as HSEC, provides export controls for strong levels of encryption. HSEC is always included as part of the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms.
Q.  Do the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support Smart Licensing?
A.  Yes, Smart Licensing is the only mode of licensing on Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms. https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/ios-xml/ios/smart-licensing/qsg/b_Smart_Licensing_QuickStart/b_Smart_Licensing_QuickStart_chapter_00.html
Q.  Are throughput performance and boost licenses available with Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  No, throughput performance is based on Cisco DNA subscription tiers.
Q.  Are there port licenses on the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platform?
A.  No, all ports are available without port licenses in the platform.
Q.  Is Cisco ONE licensing available for the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  No.

Application hosting

Q.  How many CPU cores are available for IOx application hosting?
A.  1 CPU core is available for IOx application hosting on the C8500-12X4QC And C8500-12X models. Up to 4 cores may be made available for IOx application hosting on the C8500L-8S4X platforms.
Q.  Can applications be hosted on the bootflash?
A.  Yes, but it is recommended to use an SSD for IOx application hosting or M.2 storage be used for best results.
Q.  Is Docker supported in Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms?
A.  Docker is not supported.
Q.  Do Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support Python programmability?
A.  Yes, the Cisco Catalyst 8500 Series Edge Platforms support Python programmability.
Python programmability provides users with the ability to control devices running the Cisco IOS XE operation system, by running Python code that makes use of APIs. It has multiple use cases, such as:

      Interactive Python prompts

      Running Python scripts

      Cisco IOS Embedded Event Manager

      Zero-touch provisioning

 

 

 

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